both her and mark kelly are gun owners, both used to fire at the range, and so on. they believe that enough is enough. how do you see this playing out? is there a realistic chance of say, the renewal of the assault weapons ban? >> well, i think we have a realistic chance of getting some common sense reforms passed. i'll tell you why i'm optimistic, it is not just gabby and mark's strong voice. i had a round table here in south florida today. with ten nra members and to a person they were supportive of universal background checks and making sure that we deal with this in a common sense way. they said the nra doesn't speak for them. and in in -- my opinion, and the opinion of so many, the nra proved again that they are a fringe group now and we need to have all americans from all across spectrum come together and really give the moral authority and the courage that gabby tried to convey today to legislators in the house and senate. and rome wasn't built in a day. we are not going to be able to do what we need to do to dream up the answer to this problem. but we need t